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Harold G.

United States

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Posts: 846 | Followers: 383 | 9th year with SFI

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My Best Tip....Still True 8 Years Later in Getting Started #Getting Started #Leadership #Team Building

15 hours ago

Hi Scott,
Well said, well written and organized!

Most of all--Bulls Eye!

Thanks for sharing!
--Hal

8 posts
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Question in Getting Started #Team Building

9 days ago

Hi Munkaila,

You will eventually NEED to invest something (in terms of money) into your business, just to be straightforward and honest. Too many people come into this business wanting to put nothing (in terms of money into it) and then wonder about their results.

Everyone who is determined to succeed, who will put forth time, effort, and money while learning what it takes to be an effective marketer and team leader and applying oneself to what it takes CAN SUCCEED. It's really that simple, though not always that easy.

Go Diamond!

--Hal

21 posts
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Missing Action: Where Is Bruce H.?? in Miscellaneous #Leadership #Sponsor #Team Building

14 days ago

Hi Mirjana,

Thank you for your care and concern. I'm doing well. I've somewhat shifted my energies toward focusing on team building. Yes, I'm here--
And Bruce, I will keep you and your wife in my prayers.

Thank you again, Mirjana.

--Hal

21 posts
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Missing Action: Where Is Bruce H.?? in Miscellaneous #Leadership #Sponsor #Team Building

17 days ago

It's always great when someone takes note of another :)

I too enjoy Bruce's posts. His contributions to the community are truly appreciated.

Thanks for sharing your concern. I do see that he's still around. Have you selected to follow his posts?

--Hal

17 posts
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Place a demo video at SFI's homepage/Login. in Suggestion Box #Getting Started

3 months ago

While some prefer videos, I prefer reading. Most videos I've found on the net tend to go ON and On AND ON....without ever telling you anything. But that's me.
There is quite a bit of information simply displayed in the Smart Start phase for new affiliates. I'm not sure there is an advantage to putting it in video there...
HOWEVER...
What you're talking about is marketing...which is what WE can and should do. Just because an affiliate signs up doesn't mean that our marketing efforts should stop...most affiliates still need to have the benefits and features of SFI promoted to them--so offer them such resources as their sponsor or upline team leader.

--Hal

19 posts
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Can a small home business enter the localvantia/ECA program? in ECA Program #Localvantia

3 months ago

I was just going to make the same suggestion... Contact support :)

My perception of LocalVantia is that it is for Brick and Mortar locations (in other words businesses with their own established address).

So, best to contact Support unless Gery weighs in on this thread.

--Hal

7 posts
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SFI - Know your Altitude in Team Building #Marketing #Team Building #TripleClicks

3 months ago

Well said, Horace!

I like the quote. PERSISTENCE is so important. Might I add, that we must persist at what need to do while being persistent in identifying HOW to do it best!--then persist in doing exactly that!! ;)

Go Diamond!
--Hal

38 posts
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I have NEVER asked my downline to go up in rank... in Getting Started #Marketing #PSA #Team Building

3 months ago

Hello Helena,

While I can't directly comment on your situation (as I don't know all the facts), I can say a couple of things:

1. SFI is NOT a big fraud. To the contrary, it's the real deal. If it were a fraud, earning money would be as easy as pyramidding. I've been with SFI long enough to know that many people come in and want instant earnings and so many want to avoid making investments. Those who work smart, and fine tune what they invest make progress.

2. As far as your situation, building a team that generates TC Sales Volume is where the money is. Short term, the money is small. Long term--duplicate sponsoring people who generate TC Sales Volume and eventually the income does more than grow or multiply, it exponentiates ;-)!

--Hal

38 posts
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I have NEVER asked my downline to go up in rank... in Getting Started #Marketing #PSA #Team Building

3 months ago

Hi Herman,

You're welcome! And thanks for your input as well!

There will be some adjustments needed with regards to the change over and our teams--it takes some teaching, encouragement...and yes--reward those who perform :)

Go Diamond!

--Hal

38 posts
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I have NEVER asked my downline to go up in rank... in Getting Started #Marketing #PSA #Team Building

3 months ago

Not true Tommy.
How would you know since you don't do paid advertising....?

Actually, I don't ASK anyone to buy anything. I do however express the importance of experiencing and using our products if you're going to market/promote/sell them. Period. It's a fundamental dynamic of effective salesmanship and marketing.

Second, those who DO support their own products at TC actually demonstrate a level of commitment that others haven't yet arrived (unless their truly financially unable to yet do so). Many team leaders reward and reinforce this level of commitment--plus (AGAIN)--using our products is a foundation for effective marketing.

I also don't tell anyone to advance in rank. Sometimes I've asked, why? You know, if someone has a leg that is 12 deep and their current rank leaves them out of reach to capturing Team Overrides, I'm going to tell them they need to consider advancing in rank to capture the commissions they're missing!

I don't ask people to advance their rank ever. I teach them how to advance in rank and why it's important to advance in rank. Sure, SFI does a great job of providing information--but you're telling team leaders to NOT be team leaders by remaining "mum" on some very important basics in Network Marketing 101.

Also, this community is NOT your team. I appreciate your desire to offer ideas, share what you do, and make some suggestions. I don't appreciate posts that actually "steer or navigate" the community in directions that may be contrary to what other team leaders are doing. Posts like that become counter-productive and actually cross into what is called cross-lining (though it may not be intended). So when constructing a post, let's offer ideas, suggestions, and discuss methods--but be careful of promoting very specific strategies....We don't want to be counter productive to others' efforts, right?

--Hal

10 posts
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Servicing Product of a MLM in Sales #ECA #Localvantia #Sales

3 months ago

The problem is it sets a precedence. If you let one in, you have to let others. And again, it opens Pandora's Box... It's just not worth it in the long run. I know we'd like to earn money/rewardicals, but we need to view what we do from a long term perspective. There's BIG money to be made and again, why set up interference?

Thanks Edward, I appreciate your questions.

--Hal

10 posts
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Servicing Product of a MLM in Sales #ECA #Localvantia #Sales

3 months ago

Hi Everyone,

Think about this:

One of us signs up a person who offers products/services from XYZ MLM Group as an RECA. What stops this person from signing up our affiliates should they come to him??
Sure he can't solicit, but what stops a PASSIVE CROSS-SOLICITATION situation from taking place after we've enabled it?
Let's go further. Several people on YOUR team get involved and focus on XYZ MLM Group activities (selling, building a team). This is going to WATER DOWN their time/money/effort and focus in SFI. Can you and really afford to even tolerate such a potential situation let alone bring it into the fold??
Do those of us who work hard AND SPEND money building their teams (and supporting our product line through self-purchases while also laboring/investing to sell them) really want that type of "cross-fire" in our own program???

I honestly don't want this type of interference and this sort of potential cross-solicitation sub-culture found in TripleClicks. Too many of us have spent years, hard work, and a good amount of money taking the SFI Journey...

Two thumbs down on this sort of recruitment where I'm concerned. That's what the Amazon platform (and others) is about--not TripleClicks. TripleClicks and any of the Zing channels should not be used as a stepping stone platform to produce sales volume for another MLM or Network Marketing Company.

All this so we CAN Go Diamond!
--Hal

65 posts
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Suggestions for my two problems in Suggestion Box #PSA

4 months ago

Hi Elizabeta,

I also shared my story of how I delivered papers (in my earlier days in network marketing) to have money for my business. Thank you for sharing this important part of your destiny to growing a successful business! Too many people overlook becoming resourceful (making handcrafts scarves, or delivering papers, or something else) to obtain the money they need to build their business.
I agree with you whole heartedly, if you truly and earnestly want to be successful you'll find a way--

Thanks again!
--Hal

65 posts
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Suggestions for my two problems in Suggestion Box #PSA

4 months ago

Hi Mary and Everyone,
Keep in mind when we obtain CSAs through a purchasing process--it is made clear what the qualifications are to retain those CSAs. So there's nothing unfair here.

WHY a criteria for retaining CSAs?
The CSA program is a privilege--a reward/incentive for co-sponsors who are willing to AT LEAST maintain the rank of EA demonstrating their commitment to their own leadership in SFI.
Would it be "fair" if a person could "buy" CSAs and never do anything while accumulating active CSAs beyond paying for them? Someone else put time, money, and WORK into cultivating that active CSA (their REAL sponsor)!!! Being a co-sponsor is simply A PERK for committed leaders. As a co-sponsor you are rewarded commissions from CSA purchases and in turn you simply need to be a sources of recognition, encouragement, and help when needed (in situations where the sponsor or upline leadership is not supportive). CSAs ARE NOT a part of our team--they are an add on appendage that provides a potential income stream for those who are committed leaders in SFI; the demonstration of that commitment is maintaining EA status--whether you acquire them through auctions / purchases or through the CSA REWARDS program.

--Ha

65 posts
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Suggestions for my two problems in Suggestion Box #PSA

4 months ago

Hello Milorad and Everyone,

I hope I can clarify some perspectives and perhaps answer your questions.

FIRST:
Every SFI affiliate is an Independent Business Operator who has agreed to work with an affiliate network marketing company (Zing Network /SFI). I often see the word "job" in a lot of posts (including this thread) and am not sure if it is a translation problem or a perception problem. Based on some of the remarks in this thread, it seems to be a percepion problem. We did not sign up for a job or employment. When we join SFI we are agreeing to operate as independent business operators according to the term and conditions set forth by SFI/Zing Network.
We are NOT paid for our time; we are not paid salaries or paychecks. We are paid commissions BASED ON PRODUCING SALES VOLUME. This is done two ways: Generating sales through customers we find (PRMs) AND/OR generating sales when we buy products ourselves. This process is what we all get paid to do. What we need to do is find others who would like to earn a big income by sponsoring others who generate sales volume while also sponsoring others to do the same. As your network of active people grows, so will your income. At a certain point your income will multiply exponentially!! This is MUCH BETTER than getting paid "hours for dollars."

SECOND:
I've mentioned before in some of my posts about how I learned to be resourceful (during my involvement with another network marketing company years ago). During that time I worked a LOT of hours, plus I was wanting to gain an extra income through this network marketing opportunity (before the internet revolutionized network marketing). I needed to buy products and pay for the tools and learning opportunities (seminars). I didn't have it. So, I delivered newspapers for a local newspaper on a motor vehicle route to get my capital until my business could provide the capital. Why? It worked; because I found a way to make it work. My DREAM was bigger than the "facts" concerning my current situation and I found a way.
Having zero, little, or enough capital for our SFI business has less to do with whether we'll make it in this business or not compared to whether or not are DREAM (why) is big enough for us. It takes a dream to succeed--not a wish or mere hope. It take a dream that is big enough to each of us personally that we're willing to work hard AND smart for it and commit ourselves to doing what it takes to achieve the goals along the way that are necessary for realizing our DREAM(S)!

FINALLY:
Find people who have this composure OR who are willing to adopt this composure...and you'll make it to the top!! --Provided you realize this is a journey that takes a few years and NOT a few months.

Now, Go Diamond!
--Hal

9 posts
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New Co-sponsors in Miscellaneous #CSA

4 months ago

The best practice is to use the GroupMailer which SFI provides. They can send multiple recipients the same email this way.

A Co-Sponsor should protect the contact information of their CSAs for which they are responsible if they use their own email account. Instead of CC or putting all contacts in the send to field, they use BCC which hides the contact info of other recipients.
This is something to keep in mind: Just because a CoSponsor has a CSA in SFI doesn't mean that the CSA won't take advantage of the contact info that is provided in a situation like you described and cross-solicit!! We need to use our heads when sending emails out to multiple recipients to protect the value of CSA program.

Thanks for your post!

--Hal

13 posts
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Stay on course with new changes! in Compensation #Compensation #Leadership #Team Building

4 months ago

Hi Mirjana,
You're welcome :)
Thank you, so much :) I appreciate what you've shared.

My Best to You,
Hal

13 posts
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Stay on course with new changes! in Compensation #Compensation #Leadership #Team Building

4 months ago

Hi Mirjana,

Just a little correction: No [sales volume] no money. Sales volume can be generated through PRM sales and/or purchases.

This component of SFI should have always been an emphasis as soon as someone joined. I realize many people found a way to patiently earn growing commissions through by-passing this, but that isn't how a strong network marketing opportunity works. So, we just need to teach people success attitudes and teach them how to make this work for them. From what I see the new comp plan brings greater income potential for those who commit to what it takes to succeed.

Best to you and your team,
Hal

29 posts
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What's Better Old or New in Team Building #Team Building

4 months ago

Hi Wayne (and Everyone),

Actually in comparing the TL Requirements to "The Plan," the truth is the only REAL qualification drop occurred for two TL levels: DTL and BTL (it wasn't only the higher levels).
BTL before: 5 PSAs. NOW: 3 PSAs
DTL before: 5 PTLs. NOW: 3 PTLs
All other levels ACTUALLY REMAIN THE SAME as far as the number of required lesser TLs for each rank--only the number of outside PSAs actually dropped (which it did for every level).

EA got a boost for potential income with the new plan which it didn't have before. Before EA only got commissions (no matching shares or overrides).

As far as ranks costing more...
Regardless of what I sell or don't sell to PRMs, I buy at least 3000VP in product each month. Even if I only had a 1500VP AutoDelivery item--there's no change in what it costs me for rank.

Going forward we need to teach affiliates who are familiar with the old comp plan how to transition to the new comp plan. In other words, they need to understand what it takes to be an entrepreneur in a network marketing business. Simply said: PRODUCE SALES VOLUME. It's where the money is. And actually even under the old plan it was where the money was, but the problem we faced was too many people trying to get paid for free. Too many people were afraid their sponsor would make a commission on their purchases. Stone Evans is my sponsor and I know he doesn' t rich off of my purchases--but I sure don't mind if he looks at his commission report and says, "there's a committed leader on my team." Bing is upline from me--and yes, he DID get a raise on the overrides he earns from my purchases--I'm GLAD he did! If there's more money for them, there's more money for me. All you have to do is BUILD A TEAM of SALES VOLUME PRODUCERS who duplicate the same process and you'll be sharing pictures of what you bought with your SFI income ;)

Hang in there buddy! It'll work out.
--Hal

29 posts
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What's Better Old or New in Team Building #Team Building

4 months ago

I realize their may be some obstacles in different countries. Here in the States there are some great choices. Yet, there are some people who may say there aren't many choices...
That being said...
If you simply take TCredits (1500VP worth) OR Business Builder's Bundle and emphasize that product throughout your team--you're going to see income. And by the way, the Team Override is greater than the VP/Share value you'd get paid for an EA (if you're a BTL or higher). My advice is find a way to make it work and duplicate it. The end result (I've charted it out because I'm excited about the impact this change will make) thus far is greater than before. Remember, an EA in depth only returned you around 50-60 cents (matching shares). Now a 1500VP purchase is going give you an override that is better than that.
By the way, this IS a global business. You can market products to people in other countries--and sponsor people from other countries as well.

Too many times we define a false boundary for ourselves and never realize the potentials because of an erroneous perspective. SFI is a global business--you can market the opportunity AND the products to any global market! Take down the boundaries and think outside perceived limitations. I had to learn that lesson myself years ago in Network Marketing...and guess what? It worked (and STILL does)!

--Hal

29 posts
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What's Better Old or New in Team Building #Team Building

4 months ago

Hello Everyone,

The new plan is clearly built at compensating those who produce Sales Volume. Period. This is how every network marketing business compensates its affiliates/associates, as well as SFI.

In the past a lot of money was paid out to those who simply sought FREE ways of getting "shares (VPs)." While the amount of money for this process was a small amount (50-60 cents per 1500VP), it compromised the value of shares in the Executive Pool, and thus penalized those who did produce Sales Volume (throught PRM Sales AND Transfer Buying). While this compensation plan was in affect, a lot was done to try to bolster the value of the shares which would result in bigger payouts and make SFI an EVEN MORE attractive opportunity for would be entrepreneurs, but that never happened.

BIG APPLAUSE to the new Comp Plan because it pays us for addressing and engaging "where the rubber meets the road!" Now, we earn VP to earn rank, which in turn positions us for maximizing pay outs through Team Overrides in depth whenever a product/service is sold or bought by an affiliate on our team.

I have been saying this for years in the Forum: If you want to make money in SFI, you need to produce SALES VOLUME and build a team that does the same. Sales Volume is produced when we make a sale to a PRM or when we ourselves support our business and teams through purchasing our own products (which I've always done). So, there IS more money to be realized, BUT "Sales VP" is the way to getting the money after you achieve the rank.

WE ALL ARE IN BUSINESS to produce sales volume--that's what we get paid to do; so let's just do it! We'll smile when we go to the bank!

Go Diamond!
--Hal

13 posts
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When one buys TC Gift Certificate, why is it that one is not rewarded with Rewardicals and VPs? in Miscellaneous #Rewardical #Team Building #VersaPoints

4 months ago

Tall Ships did answer your question accurately, and Sven also answered your question. When you get a TC Gift Certificate there is no real purchase yet. As both gentlemen said, you've moved money into your TC Gift Certificate account. So there are no commissions to yet be realized by anyone until the TC Gift Certificate is used by the recipient. At that time if the recipient makes a qualifying purchase then commissions and Rewardicals get issued--but NOT until then.

A TC Gift Certificate has an expiration time set by you (the one who selects the TC Gift Certificate). If that TC Gift Certificate is NOT used by the expiration date. The money is returned to you through your TC Gift Certificate account. This is another reason why there are no rewardicals/VP/Commissions generated for simply obtaining a TC Gift Certificate. This process is a way to help generate sales, reward your team members, etc. The rewards come when the objective of the TC Gift Certificate is realized (the purchase of a product by the recipient).

So that is why there are no Rewardicals (etc.) for selecting a TC Gift Certificate, and I wouldn't want SFI to issue Rewardicals, etc. until the TC Gift Certificate is used for the fact that the TC Gift Certificate has an expiration date at which point money is returned to the issuer of the certificate.

--Hal

8 posts
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Help or not help Team Members? in Team Building #Getting Started #Leadership #Team Building

4 months ago

Hi Everyone AND well said, Tanja!

This IS a business and not a charity. HOWEVER we can EMPOWER people rather than implement handing out money as a strategy--WHICH IS NO STRATEGY in ANY network marketing opportunity--including SFI.

Empower?
Yes--before I offer anything to someone on my team, there are certain standards they need to have met OR are willing to meet. The first and foremost requirement is that they have (or are willing to) established open and honest communication with me. Period. Success with network marketing requires a Team of People who are engaged int team participation. No communication--NO TEAM. Period. AND--put success in the distance until this is established.

I have found that cash incentives (usually given as a TC Gift Certificate) for specific accomplishments are effective--provided these are worthwhile accomplishments which also demonstrate the level of a person's commitment.

Second--I teach people how to be resourceful. When I started in Network Marketing years ago--I was broke and I had NO EXTRA MONEY--I was behind in my bills. What did I do? In addition to my job, and in addition to doing opportunity meetings for my network marketing business, I took on a motor-paper route (I delivered to 150 customers / day). I used this money to finance my business until my business could finance itself. Did this work? Yes!!!
Did anyone every give me money in my upline to help me build my business? NO--NEVER. In fact, this was a strategy for failure.
Did my upline help me build my team? YES. As I worked my business and built teams of distributors they worked in a leg of mine as well. They helped me because I demonstrated my level of commitment by attending to my business in ways that only those who are committed did--I bought products which we used in our home--and thus promoted; I invested in leadership development and business growth and in team participation. My upline also invested their time, effort, AND money BY helping me build my team.

This is how we help people financially.

Good point Tanja! And take note everyone! :)

Go Diamond!
--Hal

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How much do you really need to invest?? in Getting Started #Getting Started #Sales #Team Building

4 months ago

Hi Randy and Everyone...

Randy, You're absolutely correct!!!

In all honesty this is when people (even if they have good intentions) step across the line into CROSS LINING. Telling people how much they need to invest should be kept within your own team communications (Gen 1 on down). I don't even provide such instructions to my CSAs as that is totally between them and their sponsor and upline. I let everyone know they're going to need to some money into their business, but that' as far as it goes with those outside of my Gen 1 on down.

By telling people how much to invest--you may be interfering with other leaders' patterns of duplication and instructions. AND...generally most suggestions do exactly that. You could be sharing an amount too high for some teams, or an amount too low for other teams....

Let's encourage investing (in general), but DON'T define what amount is a good practice--leave that up to sponsors and team leaders within their own team communications.

Thank you Randy for sharing your position. I thought I'd add why I support and applaud your shared reaction.

--Hal